Thanks for the feedback Varian and Mike :) I will be ordering.....very soon. Am glad to hear that the Vue creators listen and respond. They responded quickly to a couple of emails I sent them and were actually the ones who referred me to this Forum! :) I've been visiting Renderosity for some time.......but as a Bryce user. I've written Bryce twice with questions about Bryce 5........never a response from them. I also know someone in Florida who I collaborate with on some web based projects for a club called CLAW. Don't laugh.....it's a club for people who own cats (the domestic kind). Anyway, we're both Paint Shop Pro users and I turned her on to Bryce. She's had some of the same "learning curve" frustrations with it that I have. Now I can direct her to Vue :) I think she will love it, because she actually is an artist! Thanks again for all your feedback. Sandy