Nevertrumper posted at 9:47 AM Sun, 28 December 2025 - #4502605

lsauvage posted at 6:57 AM Sun, 28 December 2025 - #4502603

When using AI, you decide what to keep and what to discard—it’s entirely the artist’s choice. I mainly use it to generate reference materials, which is also my primary use for tools like Poser.

Your friend A. I. makes a imagages for you, that you ordered, and you pick and choose, which one to keep?
And then you claim, this is YOUR art work?
Hell NO!

Again, I think it's not as black and white as this. In Poser most works take at least 50 renders (often many more!) to get near the end result I want. I go back endlessly, tweaking poses, lighting and render setting, figuring out why the hell Poser messed up details, I thought I got right. In the end my final image is almost always a mesh up of several renders and some post production. With AI, thought the technique is different, the prosess is the same. I work endlessly changing settings and prompts to get a result that is clossest to what's in my head. When I'm close I fix the seed and vary around that, tweak the prompt some more, sometimes change details in the input image and finaly ending up with two or three renders I put together for the final image. The lighting, textures, etc. are not totaly random: There is an input image, a prompt that gets finetuned over and over again and there is skill and patience involved to get the result I have in my head, not what AI presented me in the first go, just like with Rendering in Poser. 

I found this article interesting in this respect: https://shotkit.com/are-ai-generated-images-art/

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AI and the Click Delusion

Some would argue that because AI generations can be created from a basic text prompt and a few clicks, it cannot be considered art. And I would agree: after all, not every photograph clicked is art. 

Anyone who has used AI to create images knows it is no mean feat to coax it into creating a replica of the image you envision. [my emphasis]

When you click the generate button, AI might generate an interesting visual, but it usually won’t look anything like the visual you had in mind. 

AI has its limitations. To create the picture you wish takes a lot more than entering one line of text and the click of a generate button.

The majority of artists using AI to generate work don’t use the one-click fix to create their art.

They have a practice that is time-consuming and complex, which allows them to create the specific style and visuals they envision.

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What divides an artist from a painter? The artist has a vision, a message, while the painter is satisfied with the process of painting and has no vision.

In a similar way, anyone can prompt AI to create appealing images, but are they like the painter… splashing colors on a canvas with no clear intent?

Interestingly, if we look back on history, photography was once considered a one-click wonder, incapable of producing art.

Considering the mechanical nature of the photography process, how did photography come to be considered art?

The quick answer is that society began to realise the depth of expertise required to take a good photo.

Art institutions began to appreciate the intention behind the click, realising it wasn’t just a random shot, but required skill and creativity.

There are parallels between how AI is viewed and how photography was first viewed. After all, like AI, photography was first considered a purely mechanical contraption.

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