let me redo some of my words... just to clarify this debate.... I'm not sure where was the virus. I'm not sure how did I get the virus. I had 2 hards lost one the other one had image files and mp3. I bought a new comp. I got the virus again, spreading on the hard with mp3, the one that I had not formated since I also had bought a hard with the new comp. The virus only had spread among mp3 songs I lost all of it. reformated the entire dammed thing since then I now have pc-cillin they were great at offering support. I have not seen it since then. neither notest anything unusual. there.... hope I have made things clear. I'm not saying it was this or that, only what happened. I'm no nerd nor programer, I know a little arts and being working with comps since win3.1... pc-500. so in no way I disagree with you guys, I thank you for giving me more knowledge. But I know what happened to me, all that I'm trying to say is becarefull with what you download, have an ativirus, update it often, have some back up which was the initial topic of this conversation. therefore, I learnead a hard lesson... It took me one week to get back and running.... so....... don't want that to happen to my wors't enemy... well... maybe to him...but anyways I hope you guys get the message and once again thanks for the info....