yes, april, my influence was definitely anton's magik fx....i wan't sure i was gonna be able to achieve a look anywhere NEAR that, but i'm pleased with the results so far....thanks for checking out my image....by the way, i'm a pretty big fan of your work....i downloaded your package that allows posette to take vic maps, but haven't quite got it working yet...i must have installed it improperly...i'll have to get back to that soon....but i keep getting interrupted with NEW toys!! lol tam ;o)