Thanks guys! I think I can make her feet so she can wear flats, by just bending to flat-foot, as I'd hate to have to include another CR2, this one is going to be big with all the morphs for all that mesh. For that reason I thing I'm going to throw out her existing breast morhs and put another one in th eset, as the origianl ones only seems to work on the bottom part of her breasts. I think I'm also going to give her a new "default" face, because the head morph includes the whole head mesh anyway I might as well get something useful out if it! The one above has a de-jowl (if you know what I mean) morph, that will be standard, along with some of the other changes above. I think I'm also going to do some more (moderate) improvements - she might as well get a full face-lift to go with the new body! I should have her to the store this week, with any luck she'll be up by the weekend. She'll go for $20 or so. She was actually quite a lot of work, pretty close to starting a figure from scratch. The huge vertex count brought my computer to it's knees, many times! Oh, MAB, your right. I sort of got the same impression I did when I opened the original Vickie I, the mesh was sort of designed to ugly her up! The real Dina isn't really like that, so much for "working from a real figure"!