welp, no way jose lol... it just doesnt like me. when i AM successful at downloading something, its always this: "questionnairedownload.ez" changed my email, have tried both with and w/o Smartload, i dunno... i cant get anything but the form validation error. lol.... nm, this is right up there with your time outs eric lol let me know if you got it ok? thx Maz http://www.renderosity.com/questionnaire.ez?Ques=5 what the heck is an .ez extension? lol