Paul, Sounds like I got what you were saying in general. Quick and dirty would be nice, but I think most of this will need to be one off, as far as pose files go. If this were a union shop, this would be great = job security. No mass production. I don't know about "we" calling them "Joint" poses, but I do. As it now stands: MAT = materials POS = pose or position MOR = morphs I have two more: MOR donor = substitutes actual morph deltas in a existing morph JNT = joint - for everything else - joint limits, JP, scaling, trans, alter rate or rate signs in JCM - the housekeeping stuff. I called the tmech scaling and fix the fingers and reverse gravity effects in JCM = JNT pose files. It just makes explaining it easier if there is some basic understanding about nomenclature. But we are not close on this yet. One danger in this - it suugests that the functions are separate - and they are not. One pose file can include all of these functions. MAP = what? A typo that was supposed to be MAT?