Thanks Varian :) I grabbed some of your plants earlier tonight and will be back for more! :) Will also check out Guitta and Laurie. I'm going to fill up a folder so I'm ready when the full version arrives! I did make my way to the Yahoo Group Forum and got Orio's tree tonight! Big download!! :) But an amazingly nice oak tree! It is my favorite tree so I was glad to be able to get it. I ended up getting both......one for Bryce and one for Vue! Sandy