Well, I don't think we are debating the merits of different rendering engines here. I happen to agree that Bryce 3D-MAX and other engines have different features and render differently. But they are also SLOWER and more tedious to use as well. So what. The question is do Bryce, 3D MAX, Vue4 etc renders belong in the POSER art gallery, when there are other galleries on Renderosity that have been created for that purpose. I think that the Poser Gallery should represent the work of Poser - which is (and has been since Poser2) MUCH MORE than a simple posing tool.