ronstuff, if you read what i've wrote, you could have discovered that the image above my post was just an example about the shadow bug. also you might have read that i admire very much people who make good images (be it in poser or not). if you could enlighten me and tell me how do i get poser to render shadows from the hair on the face? also i'd like to know where are the options for water, clowd and wood generator? oh, wait, that's not poser background, my bad...