I agree with AgentSmith, the final render is where the picture is made. I use models, handmade or not and load them into bryce, texture map and fuss with them. Bryce is a tool just like Truespace, Photoshop and Poser. I hope that the admins for the Bryce gallery do not follow the example of the Lightwave admins. What is so wrong with non pure Bryce pictures? What was so bad about Poser that the Lightwave admins decided to ban it?