Aleks: Thanks for the little red circles, and especially the numbers. That helps a lot. Maybe the angle of your light has something to do with the shadows - do you think? Have you tried a custom shadow-casting spot-light just for the hair? Anyway, from what I see, shadows are the LEAST of your problems. Maybe you could do a side-by-side comparison for me, using the exact same lighting, figure, textures, etc in MAX and showing the difference in rendering ability. Soulhuntre: Your point is well made, and I agree in theory. The only problem is that from all I can see in the gallery, very few people use MAX or Bryce "just" for the final render. Once they get their Poser figure in there they start to make little "tweaks" - a lighting change here - a texture adjustment there, a little "atmosphere" thrown in and it goes on. And there's nothing wrong with that, but at some point the image ceases to be a Poser product and becomes a MAX (or Bryce or Vue)product, regardless of where the various objects in the image originated. The question becomes, "where to draw the line" - and that is difficult to define. Don't get me wrong guys, one of the main things I'd like to see in Poser 5 is a better render engine. But until then, I still think that images in the Poser Gallery should reflect the work of Poser. Otherwise they should rename the gallery to "Hodgepodge".