I think they have already anounced the World Builder tie-in, so it can't be that, I hope. I was thinking not "Poser 5 will be up for sale Tuesday" I was hopeing for "Poser 5 will be out (...), Poser 4 purcahasers after date (...) would be entitled to a free upgrade or discount" "Poser 5 will include..." I don't really care for no stinking avatars, I don't even know what that is!