I don't know what to say about the lips. There is only one set and it should be textured by the head texture you're using. Make sure that they are not transmapped (unless you want them to dissappear). If you want to get rid of them. Just do the same as with the Upper Eyebrows. Make them White, highlight Black, and Trans min 0, trans max 100, falloff 0, and NO textures in ANY of the boxes below. If that's not what you mean, please explain further. James