Nerd, I just reread the thread and I must not have seen yours before. A newly-jointed Posette will be heaven -sent! Please, though, include cr2's that we can use as bases to point to any clothing item and also don't forget shoes and boots (with shin and thigh parts). This whole matter is taking on Great Unified Theory porportions but I see it as feasible considering what Poser users were doing 2 years ago and how far it's come since then. And Jaager, your MOR donor poser files is probably the only way to go from here on. True Poser no longer has the morph limit but waiting for my fully-loaded-with-morphs character to load is sheer hell. I would continue educating the masses :) as I'm sure that most casual users haven't even fully grasped what that would mean. I would definitely like to be able to do the same set up in my library. Any chance of your doing a tutorial or something?