Well Kupa, most of that news is only pertenant to the minority of users. And mostly PC users at that. Mac version of the C4D plugin: Not that many users that I know of have this program (too expensive IMHO). But that's my take on it. Avatar Lab: Mac version? More than likely not. But this seems to me to be the most interesting news. Though again, since the Atsmosphere player is PC only this leaves out the MAC people as they may create the avatar but can't view it online. World Builder plugin: I also don't know of too many users here with that either. Again, that's just my take on it, and what I see discussed here. Sorry to be so disgruntal, I guess I'm just in a bad mood today. I was just told by the Dell techies that the only way to fix my ailing PC is to reformat my hard drive and do a clean install. Sheesh! At least I still have my G4's to use until I figure out what to do. (I have no way of backing up my PC drive :( ) James