Angelyna looks like Supermodel Vicki? I have to say the resemblance there escapes me completely. SMV is tall and thin and not very curvy, while Angelyna is short and more stocky around the thighs and... er... err... baby's got back... :-> Here's something I know I'll end up sorry I wrote. I wonder if some of the reaction we're seeing isn't a bit of resentment by vendors against people who come up with things that are of as good or better quality than Marketplace stuff (things like Angelyna and P4VSkin) and then undercut market values by have the temerity to give them away rather than sell them. Not too long ago, giving things away for free was the norm around here, and selling them was the suspiciously-regarded exception to the rule. Now it seems the worm has turned. -nemo