Hi Folks! Thanx duane and kupa, for inserting some perspectiove into this discussion. As someone who's been a Poser user sinec it was first released by Fractal Design, I'm perfectly happy with the pace at which ther application is advancing. I've pointed this out before but it's worth noting again: Poser is not a high-end graphics program: it should not try to market itself as one and certainly not try to compete with other apps that are. Without Poser, I would still be drooling over the character animation potential of Electic Image and Lightwave, which have recently become financially within my reach. As an art student I studied life drawing for years, and none of the stuff I ever did then is as visually compelling as the stuff I can do with Poser. When I want to do high end stuff I'll use a high-end app. Let's keep Poser fun--and affordable. This isn't a criticism, soulh--just my 2/100 of a dollar. That all being said--it WOULD be nice to have marquee rendering and true reflections!! Peter (Dr Zik)