VS, Photo-based modeling is a huge feature, pioneered in AvLAb, for delivery at higher resolutions down the road. Rendering improvements- have I been keeping a secret here on this one? I don't think so. other ill kept secrets on my end- clothing, fabric, collision detection. you should read the original spotlight interview. last one...hmmm how do i answer this- bryce integration? until Conan came on board there were some lopsided revenue sharing issues. they wanted access to ours while they were licensing our technology. I think Conan could wind up being our mutual hero on this one. what's wrong with us? certainly not these issues. ;-) kupa