Thanks everybody, it seems my mistake was that I tried to assign the materials from withing Poser using the grouping tool. I did edit the cr2 to point to the new geometry but didn't add the new materials like you did April,though it sounds perfectly logical the way you did it and if anyone's way over their head in here it's me :) ) but, now I'm hooked on playing around with these pose files! Jaager, I see your point now and my original intent was to shorten the figure so no need to x scale since any shaping can be taken care of morphs. Of course Poser 5 may come out soon and do everything automatically (!) but I doubt it :)