Grammer, Good stuff. Very impressive. We should talk. Duanne, Plug-ins, once successful, move into the realm of being ubiquitous. Examples would be Quicktime, Shockwave, Flash, and the battle for ubiquity in the 3D plug-in wars is still being waged. We're a bit neutral at this point, delivering a Viewpoint component, and yet still developing one for Shockwave 3D. Pulse, Cult, EON, et all are fighting hard, but it really comes down to business model for the player, installed base and functionality. For us, the Viewpoint player has better features- heck we built the character side- than the others, but we're hedging our bet with work on Shockwave- much less robust support for charcaters at this time- As for installed base, well Shockwave has it hands down, but Viewpoint is catching up with a huge AOL deal to get the first install customer market share. They have some good clients as well, driving a larger install base, and lastly, the Adobe use of the Viewpoint player to host objects.That allows, without license issues for our customers, hosting of our characters and VP objects in a 3D web-space. It will be cross platform, the platform issues need to settle down a bit. Right now there are realistically four consumer level platforms and that makes it hard (Win, OSX, 9.X, Linux) for small developers and large developers alike, espoecially when times are tough. But let's not talk about platforms, please. Steve Cooper