I am easy to please. I love Poser (with all its imperfections). That you are even considering making it better is well, frankly, too wonderful to contemplate. I don't want Poser as a plugin for some other ap. I don't know that there is anything wrong with the way Poser renders now. I do sometimes have difficulty figuring out the lights, making the clothes and hair stay on or not show through, getting the dials to respond, or the computer to respond, despite the fact I have over a gig of ram. These are minor in comparison to the fact that for the first time in my life I am able to do art work of a nature that I had only dreamed possible. For that alone I thank you. Now you want to make it better! G Yeah, I may be living in a vacuum but I don't see where the manufactors of these other 3D aps are hobnobbing with the users, asking for feedback, and taking the flack that comes along with a hands on and personal interest. I think the folks at Curious Lab are awesome!