Ha Well, Flash isn't always bells and whistles. Sometimes it can be used for subtle things. In this case it's just being used to display a 900kb .png image at 80kb and also to stretch the image to fill your browser window, without a border (at 1024x768, anyway). I also just converted the entire image into a hyperlink that takes you to runtimedna.com. It might be possible to do those things another way.. but for me, it's easier to do them with Flash. Hey Syyd, I thought I might learn more about my new Cinema4D software by seeing what different people can do with the same scene. I suggested using your scene for this, in the Cinema forum. I hope you don't mind?