Hi, Well, I tried propsguild, but downloads seem to be off again... Sharkey's boots are high, but they have buckles :) I downloaded the one's from Ghastley, but they're the ones I spent the previous night fighting with, (and the reason for my first post) I've actually got an image that illustrates both the differences in height of certain boots, and the problem I'm having with the ghastley one's but I'm once more at the 'net cafe in Frankfurt, (sans laptop :) after a "heavy" night out, (went out at 6, came back at 6 :) You know it's geting bad when you get kicked out of a bar at 4am and you're still thirsty ;P So I'll have to transport it/them to work tomorrow and post from there. later jb