I can see your point though Cujo..

It really is a competition, to create an image that people admire.. and most hobbyists can't afford to plop down $2000 or so, just so they can render brighter images.. and this places them at a disadvantage to those that have the high end programs.

Maybe the solution is to have a new forum for "Combined Applications", as pnevai suggested in the Lightwave forum?

Of course, as he also points out, this wouldn't merely encompass Lightwave rendering and postwork, if you used any textures created out of poser, or any props, etc.. then you would also be 'ineligible' for the Poser forum.

It's a tricky situation.. and I'm glad you brought it up.

wgreenlee1 ... that's some funny shit!
( 'evildoers' is an inherently funny phrase, despite the severity of the situation )