Heya ShadowWind, no apology necessary. I found your comments very informative. Page views are certainly a thing we all like to get. Besides, once I go on the record with a thread like this, no matter what my true reasons or how often I try to clearify and state to folks that I am not just trying to get my ego stroke but am honestly in seeking ways to better myself, there is always going to be some who form their own opinion of my and my motives. That too is life. Regardless of what any might perceive as my motives, I know that I have gotten loads of useful feedback and that is what I came for. So thanks to everyone again. PS, Soulhuntre in the course of going back and forth with these post and rereading the various comments made, it seems almost as if I purposely ignored your remarks. This was not my intent, and no oversight was meant. I thought I would mention it as I want you and everyone else to know just how much I appreciate every one of you who took the time to reply to this thread. Also, I went and looked at your GI test. That is exactly the sort of thing in the way of Art I marvel at. It is a fairly simple scene, and yet it is so powerful and seems to take on a meaning all it's own, just from the way you have it lit and composed. That is the sort of thing I crave to learn. Well, I can't say that folks haven't pointed me in the right direction. Now it is just up to me to apply myself and learn. :o)