ok this is a easy one here........ yes to the question of you being what you said,the m word and yes bryce five sucks its much slower than the other and more complicated also it started as a simple landscape creation tool and now its grown into some thing very complex deci6el is right though it takes some thinking and lots of planning to get the affects you are looking for my advice read alot of tutorials you can get on the web at least follow the advice of others that have already been through the bryce turtle race mill theres lots of ways around the complexitys of bryce five but like always bryce delivers great renders its only just now that you really have to apply yourself not only into your art but also into your software cheers!