John, I didn't mean to sound like I was casting aspersions, this is a case of apples and oranges. I wouldn't suggest that someone get CR2Edit simply for making MAT files, that is just one of 50+ tools included. The type of PZ2 files your app addresses is the one that most people will be interested in, and the additions to version 2 will make it even more of a good value -- I see no reason why it shouldn't become very popular. With the brokerage fees and the thousands of hours of research and programming time, its obvious neither of us is in this for the money, but rather for the good feeling of having made things easier for artists, so they have more time for actually creating. regards, Dan http://www.zenwareonline.com/cr2edit/cr2edit.html Sorry Win only for software http://www.zenwareonline.com for ZenPaint, ZenTile, ZenGrid and VueMaster