Incidently, I would say 128 Mb is about the minimum to work nicely with 1 Vickie and her clothing, with Dina at least 256 Mb. That is on a PC, I'd say Mac's need more, I seldom can open Vickie II on my Mac with 256 Mb, Dina never opens. Vickie has twice the polygons of the Posette, Dina 4 times that of Vickie, many of us aren't quite ready for Dina yet- Even my "new" computer with 512 Mb has barfed on two Dina's, I gotta fill that last RAM slot, memory is cheap right now, I remember paying $560 for 8 Mb back in the "good old days!"