No, that doesn't upset me any. As for the shadows, yes, you are right, but we don't have a way in Vue, even in Vue 4 to change the color of the shadows, or I would. In nature, in even daylight, shados tend to be a dull gray-lavender, for example. If Vue had a radiosity render engine instead of ray tracing, now that would be all different, although the render times would be through the roof.