Thanks render < alot of the feel is dou to the way i model and the fact that those areas arent smoothed yet the back legs and tail havent been worked with yet the wings were only 5 minute wings and wernt atached just put in the pic to see if it would work or not funny your the second person that thought it looked like a griffin kinda cool not sure about the neck and which heels wer you talking about thanks for the pointers ill make sure that i pay close atention to those areas when tweaking the model later its alway s a help to get input !