thanks for the links unfortanetly the pics are to small to see but i get the idea and know where to look now thank you thats what this forum is all about !:) im not sure where im going to go withthe skin theres so many options with a mythical creature i thik ill wait and see how the character develops and then do a concept like what it hunts or eats weathe r enviroment so i can tie in the color armour etc eg if it was a dragon that lived in cold whether makingit bluish white some spots of fur and large armour plates SCAle plates would be cool