Ron; A wonderful attitude! Personally I think a few well-presented tutorials are worth more to the average newbie than most of the freebies & products available, in terms of boosting their fun & productivity with poser. - And Tutorials last longer than the threads here. Just this week there have been over 300 postings in this forum. Twelve pages. In one week. - that's a lot of browsing & clicking for most newcomers. especially since most posters seem to prefer vague, non-specific headings for their posts. With the average 56K dial-up, even at full 53K, it's 'way too time consuming for most newbies to search very far back before posting. More Tuts would save them a lot of time. Well done! ps- I got such a kick out of the humorous tome of the "What is Poser" tut, I couldn't resist re-reading it when I went to enjoy your improved Mic-Tex tut (too many abbr? - I bttr stp:-)). Saw you refined the page headings, too. G Render On! Jerry B leather-guy