Ron; Just peeped your "what are textures" tut - short & effective, have you considered one on base colors? - How to apply & an example of how base color changes affect the appearance of a texture? I've seen lists of the popular Poser characters, but can't recall if I've seen them as a separate tut or not. G - One thing about Poser users, feed our addiction & we just get greedier & greedier. ;-) This isn't often enough said, but; Many thanks to all who write the tuts that keep us growing; Not just ronknights & shadowcat, but all the others as well. Many many thanks!