Bryce is not a modeling program like for instance 3DMAX or Rhinoceros. Therefor you are forced to use other models (like poser models) if you go beyond creating landscapes. That's why Bryce is so much cheaper.... I use Bryce because 1: it's realy,realy easy to use. 2: It gives me complete control over the materials I use in a scene. I do agree that Bryce is not superior in rendering time. But that I take for granted and there are ways to bypass that also...