Vue 4 has some ready people on the CD 2. But jp, if you need 1 figure, I can create one for you, just tell me what you want and I will send it to you as a vob file. You will not be able to give it a special position, that's why you have to tell me what you want exactly or send me by private mail a photo or whatever as a sample. This is what Vue-friends did for me when I had no Poser and I think it is not illegal. Of course, I will not do this all the time, but if you need 2 or three people, I will do it. Guitta