from an avid Bryce enthusiast .......... definitely invest in Vue 4 ! the updates Corel has made to Bryce 5 does not warrant the extra $s charged for it , and Vue definitely creates better landscapes and terrains than Bryce does, not to mention Vue imports Poser files , whereas Bryce doesnt. and greetings to everyone , surgery went as expected , am now recouperating , internet time extremely limited , but will be back soon. And with a "special" picture for Sams3D and LaurieA ;)