You're a saint Phil! Let's hope things progress and this will happen. I will also be giving away: Poses, props and the like. But before I do, I'd like to get a few of the questions that I have answered. Well more than a few ;-) Even as we speak, I'm putting together a Victorian house to roam around in. I'd like to do some period avatars for this too. And some props. But again, where is all the info? I can get only so far by trial and error. *EG And maybe soon CL will fix some bugs. Or it might be Adobe that needs to move forward a little faster. Hmmm, try to push Adobe to do anything, that would indeed be a miricle (No offense Adobe). James