Thank you wadus he is one of the earlier versions less defined and detailed had to keep th polycount lower since theres so much there ! he is actually pretty screwd up at the moment on the back side but ill smooth all of it out as the character develops id love to see some people do some concepts of belts etc for him feel free to do redraws etc on my pics as usual in my next pic ill get the hands in there for you thanks for the comment !