i said to my daugthter the other day........... ok you start modelling in maya I'll use imagine 3d on an amiga...............I won............ she's 15 weeks old btw......... please try and keep the modelers forum just that...... a forum for modellers........ not people who wanna start a my software is better than yours debate.......... I've seen it too much on rosity these days and quite frankly it is starting to P*ss me off.