ah well... I need some of that old shoggoth lovin' :grins: unfortunately it's not something I could release.. I'm using morphs from all over and zygote's creature pack for the tentacles... :grins: I don't even have the software to create like that.. if I could though.. I'd be happy too. :grins: I am releasing a fantasy character pack soon, however.. a orc, dwarf, some elves and a creature called a githzerai for Mike, vik 1, vik 2 and mega mike. Anz