LOL Phil. We will meet there after the holidays, or maybe durring. Thanks for all the help. But you did bring up a sad point in a personal e-mail. people can right now steal your entire world. I hope that Adobe fixes this SOON. We all know how much work goes into creating figures, textures and the rest. I hope we can get a bit of room here in Renderosity for Atmos and AL. They are so closely related to Poser. And I really hope that we can convince the members here that we all know and love to join in and make their appearences in out worlds. Have a great Holiday all! See my next thread for a holiday pic. James