Thanks for the more detailed response PJF. I actually have a CAD background [which I find helps a lot in modeling in Rhino and TurboCad], to me Bryce is an entirely different animal. Bryces strengths for me is that it does illustration style renders better than any other app I'm familiar with. That alone makes up for any minor foibles it has: quirky interface, no export, slow rendering times, whatever. When I need a fantasy, sci-fi or architectural illustration, it's the best tool on my harddrive.

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