Hi Virus, thanks for the compliment. I am not quite satisfied with it yet as I can see some inaccuracies in it. As to programs I am using to start modelling with, I have Ray Dream Studio 5.5, a free version of Amapi and Amorphium 1 and an evaluation version of Rhino and a range of free and beta modeling programs picked up on the web. I find some things are easier to build in different programs but I am still learning. This was largely done in Rhino without saving until the end. I am guarding my free saves like Scrooge! I think I might eventually get Rhino as it is growing on me. Regards STORM