I initially picked up bryce a number of years ago, and learned out how to use it without opening the manual - by the "hrmmm... let's click on this an see what it does method". Didn't take that long to figure out how to make it do what I wanted either. Bryce 5 has some new features, but overall, the interface, the menus and other elemets of the program haven't changed that much from the version I learned on. So... yeah, I am saying it's a pretty simple new comers program. The only things I've needed the aftermarket books like RW Bryce for are the advanced things, things that arent obvious and aren't explained fully in the manual - the deep texture editor and aspects of the sky editor and tweaking the render engine.

"I am a good person now and it feels... well, pretty much the same as I felt before (except that the headaches have gone away now that I'm not wearing control top pantyhose on my head anymore)"

• Monkeysmell