Just to clear things up... I wanted to revamp old scenes (with a lot of P4 figures) using the fantastic DAZ texture maps which I have purchased with Vicki and Mike. And AprilYSH's figures did that job perfectly. Using DAZ's V2P4 for a P4 fem would have required a new tweaking with the poses, face expressions etc. Also, too many Vicki2s bring my system (Athlon 1.4GB, 1GB DDR) to a grinding halt, due to the sheer polygon count of Vicki2 (I already had to reduce the texture resolutions). vora