OH, Faeroon, I apologize for being somewhat impatient about all this. I do admit to being somewhat surprised that you didn't know about it, since I see a message saying we need to have the patch just about anywhere I go. Believe me, we're all more concerned with the fact that you can now use Poser than anything else. Now do us a favor, and remember this experience. If someone else has a similar problem, jump right in there, and ask them if they've downloaded and installed that patch!!!