Thank you, kbade! Nobody i knew could figure out where they came from. Anyhow, i can say it now: those flip hair textures i was working on are now on sale at DAZ3D. They definitely give the old hair some new life (if i do say so myself), and i recommend those ancient MTs, too. :^) And yes, i am a hair shopping 'ho. The Victoria Changing Ponytail + Expansion is one of the best values around, being multi-purposed. i think i have almost all the others that have been mentioned, and i go through phases of using one and then the others. i like Vairesh's work, but i find them rather special purpose. But--i don't have the RDNA hair. i couldn't tell if it covered the scalp properly from their demo pictures--didn't look like it, so i haven't gotten that one yet. Onward!