Well, all of this sounds awfully familiar to me. Since Metacreations seems to be unable or unwilling to stat what will happen to Poser, Bryce or Painter, this could only mean two different things: 1. The Products will be dropped or sold (Which seems as the best alternative for us all.) 2. They will do the same thing with Poser, Bryce and the rest, that happened to 3D-Studio: Give them a new "more professional" look and a new pricetag (something around 1000 $ I guess). The Carrara-Development and Canomas Pricetag seems to indicate this Version of what will happen. I am one of those "marketing-bozos" that work in the e-commerce business and I have been using Metacreations products for quite a long time by now - well I think I will reconsider and use Lightwave from now on. Sure, Lightwave has a high pricetag - but it also has the abilities to match that pricetag. I like Poser and thought about upgrading to Carrara, but I won't waste my money on a product with a very unsave future. To bad there are not as many alternatives to Poser as there are to Carrara. I think a lot of people in the marketing business think likewise: Never invest in a product with an unsave future. So what do I want to say with all this? Simply one thing: TELL US WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE PROGRAMMS WE ALL USE! Stop telling us the usual corporate propaganda speech. Simply tell us what programms will be dropped and what programms will remain and the changes that will be done with these Programms Jg Weber