Ultra Fractal rocks...check out some of Opa's work, very nice stuff. (I've done a couple of modest efforts too.) Download from www.ultrafractal.com - they have a 30 day trial and then you can register for 35 U.S Dollaronies (which is a bit more in Aus dollars but who cares its worth it!) HAVE FUN! I'll be checking Varian's forum...